But you have every right to be angry. I would never be able to fully be myself around my wife again after such an event, and to me that means there's just no way we can work anymore. German Husband let Young Boy Fuck his Wife in Threesome 14:30. Mom and boy 22:56. If shes serious about your marriage shell reassess her friends group too. Back then I hadnt realize I was bi because I was a teen, and scared of being rejected by my family, but I knew I felt certain attraction towards girls. I wish you the best of luck and although feelings usually subside after sleep, please don't just say everything is alright when this incident has revealed fundamental issues in the relationship's trust and overall what she deems to be acceptable conversations with friends. She has betrayed your trust. I am not straight, nor am I gay. First up outing someone is never good an apology can be made for that but not the making you less than convo you heard. 2) Your wife flat out lied about her grin and bear it attitude about your sex life regarding the "bi stuff" when she often initiates it. It's healthy and necessary. She did not need to provide more information. Yeah, I have a hunch that her apology is going to include counseling and new friends. Or do you think Ive misunderstood? You need a therapist to help you process what you're feeling, you need to process that in your time and she needs to fucking wait for you to do it if she really cares about you. It very much is and if you let them gaslight you and suppress how you actually feel, you will feel a huge burden and trust issues for the rest of your life. I'm sorry you went through this. Just the circles I run in a guess. Now you know you have to be careful near her, from now on dont expose yourself that much. OP, Ive never been in your shoes but I can empathize with flat out betrayal. Too many people on this app will read this and tell she can never be trusted again and you need to divorce. The big question is are you still in love with your wife and enjoy having a family with her? Be honest anyway. It sucks. My phone was blowing up the whole time with calls and text from my wife and a few from our friends. Ugh. Honestly I admire you had the balls to call her out in front of her friends and kick everyone out! The friends that she's now claiming are judgemental need to be cut off. Any time it would come up I would think about those words. She violated your trust in one of the worst possible ways and there really isn't any way to walk it back, The thing that sucks the most is that now that there was a blowupthose judgmental friends who she told about your sexualitywill be running their mouths to all their other friends and coworkers and more and more people will be told something you never wanted shared. b- for creative writing, but this is total BS. The fact she cares more about her homophobic friends opinions of her than her relationship with her partner says a lot. As a queer person, I would never feel comfortable being with someone biphobic or who is okay being friends with people who are biphobic. She criticized him and tried to get me to break up with him. At the end of the day, it is you who'll decide what makes you happy not them! Im so sorry this happened. They give up so quickly when there's a whole lifetime ahead of joy, wonder and happiness. Neither is divorce. But 2 years later she is still talking about your most sacred aspect of your personal life, buy filling in her friends on the most private part of your life. After some begging I agreed to come home tomorrow and talk. She is the one that keeps bringing up your bisexuality to make herself look like the rise to her friends, so she's biphobic as fuck. Also, she could have been honest and told him what happened at the bachelor party, but instead she kept it a secret. You were a running joke in your wife's friend group for two years. You are both going to be have to go to couples therapy and individual therapy sessions. Whatre you guys laughing about? I ask with a smile playing stupid. A DAD whose wife and kids stopped talking to him because he was covered in tattoos says he has no regrets. That's a major issue in my eyes at least. I started putting a voice recorder in my wife's car after u caught her cheating. Why would she tell them that you enjoy pegging? I dont know what to do. Personally, I would consider this along the same lines of cheating in my relationship, because it's a complete breach of trust and security you're supposed to have with your partner. Second, if you know somebody is making fun of you over something so intimate and personal, how can you enjoy it again? Your refusal to do so speaks to your character. I'll be dammed if a single one of my friends said anything like that about my man. She should immediately be defending you if they're bigots and jerks about your sexuality. So my wife and one of her girlfriends were having a few glasses of wine, and while I was in my office I overheard a very awkward part of their conversation The other woman was complaining about her husband, quite openly, and specifically about the size of his penis. No real worries there. I'd be very hesitant about taking her words at face value. You definitely have every right to be upset and angry, but I honestly feel like she is telling you the truth, and they were just unfortunately things you werent supposed to hear. Life is transient. If she truly loves you she is going to beat herself up for a while. Do good anyway. I'm not sure how to help you, but your wife needs better friends. It won't repair the damage that's been done. That's what's really completely messed up - she's been joking with pals behind his back for a couple years and never told him she had slipped up. P.O Box 30080-00100,Nairobi, Kenya. My late uncle had to watch his wife leave him on his sick bed because she couldn't bring herself so be seen that way, talking about "a whole me tending to a sick man, me I can't oh let his family do it ".. After reading this post, I was so shocked I seen this as the first comment but was also laughing badly. Normally I'd say you have to share it but I'm not sure what that looks like. When she closes her eyes shes thinking of other men, one of those other men is probably Tom. They don't have her best interest at heart and they will just as quickly sow seeds of doubt to her evidently impressionable mind. Shitty situation man. What girl no own ya sh*t. I would be scared to death to share those acts with her again. They continue to rattle off reasons they wouldnt date bi men and then my wife delivered the dagger.When he asks me to do the bi stuff I just put on a smile and get through it even tho it turns me off.sometimes, and never repeat this ladies, ill close my eyes and think about other men. Who cares. Do you actually believe that she didn't have any agency? Definitely think about whether or not this is a dealbreaker. We say things to fit in, to belong, to make people laugh, to shock people and to make ourselves seem more impressive or likeable and so on - we dont always say things just because we mean the words that come out of our mouths. See how it flushes out. Seems to me that because of her indifference to your feelings, she needs to get rid of those friends because she emasculated you in front of them. Drunk or not, does not excuse their unwarranted behaviour. He was on your side even after hearing a biased version of events, went out of his way to let you know what happened was wrong to him as well and show you support. Let her know that if she wants to patch this up, its on her. Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough. . At the very least, you need couple's counseling because it seems she has two very different worlds built up in her head when she talks with you versus her friends. You are both going to be have to go to couples therapy and individual therapy sessions. Though she made some comments around it to her female friends, I would not take those seriously (imagining other men etc). But she also initiates in the bedroom a lot, which means at least the main idea of her bullshit is false. Or no, either way it was gross as fuck. Viktor Frankl I genuinely thought we were in love, until I overheard her on the phone recently remarking to a friend that she feels she settled for me and thinks about her ex every day. You need to learn how to deal with being outed and your stupid wife needs to understand the true ramifications for you. Implying that OP's "flaw" as husband material is because he not 100% straight and slept with men is homophobic. This story isnt funny but that first line killed me. My wife and I always have a number one rule at the foundation of our relationship: never say a bad word about each other to anyone else. It's terrible. A marriage counselor should probably be your first step. Of course she's only sorry she got caught but think about it, how many times they've been making fun of you from their girls night outs? Honestly the only advice I have is to go for that beer with your friend, he seems to be the only one in the situation treating you decently. Funny thing she thought it would cheer me up to tell absolutely fucking everyone, just to cheer me up. I can give you the exact number of people's secrets I have revealed while drunk Is fucking zero. Letting your orientation slip to her friends is one thing, if she was drunk and it was an accident that's understandable, but it wasn't an accident to make fun of you behind your back to her homophobe friends. That's a MASSIVE breach of trust and decency, while you want to make it about him snooping? Keep sleeping on it, brother. They honestly seem jealous if they care that much about what you enjoy sexually. One friend asked her if she considered it and she said yes but ultimately she chose to stay with me because I made her happy and treated her better. I dont get down with revenge fucks, but if I thought she was super malicious Id be behind that comment. It's human nature. i would like to add a partner should never ever make you feel ashamed or embarrassed about your sexuality. If it were me, I would let her know that she needs to consider how this would be handled if the roles were reversed. Therapy is what you need. He said if i wanna get together for a drink or whatever to let him know. Those so called friends are not real friends. Your story is isn't as violent, but its just as embarrassing and horrifying to hear. She maybe deserves the benefit of the doubt. The guy was asking her if she'd told me about them being together in the past. I dont get real emotional or worked up over things.but I felt rage for the first time in a long time. She really messed this up, she's immature and worried about offending the wrong people. So will she keep acting to her friends like she has a problem with it? And if they give you a hard time, then fuck em! Period.. Peter Bridgens, 72, from Birmingham, started his tattoo suit at the age of 36 and took him And regarding the "I let it slip while drunk" part, she's still responsible for her acts while drunk, and if she isn't she shouldn't be drinking. But then she says.the only hurdle I had to get past with (me) was.well, you guys know.they all were kinda like mhmm as if to affirm they knew what she was talking about. That power over you is now dissipated - especially if you do your best to be yourself and act normal. I have a key and texted her I needed to stay there for the night and she said of course without any questions asked. Do not just nod your head and move on, demand that you be treated with respect and acknowledged as the great husband you are, not just some bi/gay sexually promiscuous dude who treats her nicer than Tom.. As an aside, in tandem I would "shore up" the masculine vibe (I'm reluctant to say it, but if shes confronted with sommething she may traditionally view as feminine then it will prove a great juxtaposition if you are more "direct and masculine" while shes going through this priocess). Its inappropriate her friends would gush over her ex with her (a married woman): I dont want to hear anyone talking up some guy I used to date while Im with someone else. This right here. We were chatting in my kitchen (we own a two family house) and her boyfriend was eavesdropping at the connecting door. This crap has been swimming around for TWO FUCKING YEARS. Created by your wife. If my bf were you, I'd imagine he would do the same exact thing. I turned to my wife with a raised eyebrow and announced I guess you didnt have me pegged to be a man that would stand up for himself! And I majestically brushed my cape back and walked right out of the house. Couples counseling may help rebuild trust. he was more "passionate" etc. I totally dont get why she would lie and say he begged for the gay stuff if she was wanting it. That would be the end for me. When we had problems of a sexual nature it made me feel worse that her friends who would constantly gossip amongst each other knew. Tell her that not another drop of alcohol is going to pass her lips from now on, it obviously addles her common sense. I hope you can work it out. She and her group of mean girls clearly cant accept that. Not buying it. Yup. I would just ask why her friends opinions matter more than yous twos intimacy. Yeah. Take your time, make sure you heal on your timeline not hers. Right I mean she volunteered stuff when she could have kept her mouth shut. I was so suprised how she talked about me to her friends and family..and when I confronted her I had the evidence. You are who you are, it's a done deal. I mean, what you probably should have done was just walk quietly back to the garage and talk about it in private with your wife later- like an adult. Fuck how you want to fuck. One of my wifes friends was fairly insistent about her divorcing me but honestly it came from a genuine place, its a weird situation and if you cant see how happy we are, I cant blame you for not getting it. So how wonderful was their family while his wife is sharing secrets and laughing behind his back? You gotta fuck Tom. By bringing it up then and making your feelings the most important feelings in the room, you are being childish. Its so stupid, Im sure shes great in all other aspects but she needs to stand up for you. Get used to me being stupid". They were talking about ex-boyfriends and how another mutual friend of them cheated on her husband with an ex-boyfriend because he was better in bed. So she's been hiding this for a couple years instead of letting him in on all the jokes behind his back. Forgive them anyway. Its fucked up to add that to a conversation just to pile on and humiliate her own husband. Take care of yourself, and good luck. Imagine it was a really graphic conversation, about all her body parts or how she is bad at oral sex, and it included discussions of your ex-girlfiend for comparison. I do not get why some people think it is okay to shit talk or make fun of their significant other to their friends, and act two faced when their significant other is in the room. I think your wife is genuine when she said it was just drunken girl talk and that she was intimidated into saying things because of her friends. Second, sure you might forgive her over time, but do not rush it. Especially when it all seems to have been going well. The other men were cowering in my path - perhaps it was the still throbbing splitting seams. HER?! she outed you, made cruel jokes about your guys sex life, and didnt shut down her friends for being homophobic/biphobic. I know from experience when you say Ill kinds of shit and they say whatever makes your friends happy or agree especially if youre drinking and they all laugh about it I believe your wife really does love you but she needs to stand up for you with your friends and those friends arent real friends so they have no business in your home do you need some serious counseling for your children sake. I have one person I talk to sometimes about my gf. He said if i wanna get together for a drink or whatever to let him know. I am a firm believer that most things can be worked through. So does she. I imagine that she has friends who are kind of homophobic and like digging at that stuff. There are hundreds of roles people play all the time. She broke your trust, plain and simple. Your wife was actively talking shit about you behind your back when she thought you werent listening. Maybe you could come around trusting her, but i wouldn't trust her friends. Get your better halves and get the fuck out of my house as I tipped my fedora and winked at my wifes hottest friend who was clearly impressed by my rage erection that had partially split the seam in my relaxed fit Levi 501s. She and her boyfriend did it regularly. This friend is in a serious relationship," he kicked off the contenscious post. She was pretty happy discussing extremely intimate shit off the cuff in a group. You both need to get in front of a good counselors and dig in. Ive been with my partner for 5 years. Are all your future conversations and issues also going to be relayed through said friends? So she outed you, and joked with friends about fantasizing about other men during sex because of your sexuality? Please think about going to individual counseling as well as couples counseling! This is a huge betrayal and should not be minimised by either of you. Especially with the "gay" things they do. I don't know where you should go from here. But I don't know that it's unforgivable. Will you ever be able to trust her with any important information again? I mean if she can demean you in front of her friends there is absolutely no issue putting her in her place in front of them as well. Dont slide back to her. Its very helpful to be able to be open about everything with our friends, cause it makes our open marriage life so much easier without having to keep it secret and hidden, so Im really sorry that you guys have to keep your bisexuality such a secret. Oh my god I fucking lost it at your comment. Don't minimize the situation and don't let anyone gaslight you into thinking you are overreacting or that this isn't divorce-level situation. Its just so cowardly and shows she's not on your team. But Id advise against staying with someone like that at all. Will you ever be able to "do the bi stuff" in bed with her again? Couples therapy. Partners that demand that have no respect for you. When the "friends" make their snide comments, she should be backing you up, not joining in. He and I werent real close, but wed hang out here and there and always enjoyed one anothers company at get togethers and stuff. What she did was the lowest of the low and completely unacceptable. If you can't trust someone with your sexuality - you aren't going to trust them with anything else that matters to you, there will always be something keeping you from sharing your full self with them. She has taken away your ability to feel safe being vulnerable and honest with her. You are going to have to shrug this off but your not overacting. Any other friends you have in common likely know. How do you hang out with that friend group now knowing all their extra bullshit? Shes hurt you, she needs to stand by you and say that shes proud of you and supports you, has no doubts, and enjoys it herself. Take care of yourself, you have the right to take more time if you need it. Im a bisexual guy, I like guys strictly sexually. First, you did not overreact, this is a huge violation of your trust. This isn't your fault. I don't know what you should do but I know you shouldn't just roll over and say it's okay. Shes married to a bi man, and her idiot friends shouldnt have the power to make her feel bad about it. There is no combination of words that will make all this just go away. This was really jarring. I am honestly at a loss. Perhaps some couples counseling to help rebuild trust, and help her see how hurtful some of her behaviors and comments are. There were 3 friends with her. She told them deeply personal stuff about your sex life. The real question on my mind is why is she friends with people who belittle you for your sexuality? she can claim she doesnt mean it all she wants but that will not change the fact she said it and then didnt defend you when things got ugly. Ngl bro the first halve is disrespect enough, you now know she keeps important shit to herself like Tom tryna derail your marriage and is at the same time comfortable sharing your personal life with her friends and entertaining her friends disrespecting you in your own home. It sounds like you're discovering a side of your wife you didn't know about. German Young Boy Seduce Big Tit Step-Mom to Lost Virgin 16:20. Yeah, I'm a married woman. And sometimes its nice to vent about the small stuff and have close friends relate to you and help you feel youre not alone. As long as you are honest with yourself then it will all work out. Own who you are and youll feel so much better. I have no idea how you will be able to have sex with her. He is my best friend, and I would never make fun of him behind his back like that. Yeah Id be pissed about the betrayal of trust. Try marriage counseling and perhaps moving away for a new start. I think you should try to work this out. Being shitty is easy, being a good person is too Clearly choices have been made. But it does happen and people can surprise you. You can't keep things like that a secret forever. People are too quick to run away from a marriage and give up when issues come up. All I can tell you is that it will all pass in good time, and you deserve better, and if she cant be better it ought to be from someone else. You have to try and think past this and think about her and the relationship as a whole. She hurt you fucking badly. 2.) I will always defend my guy. Your anger is justified, but breaking up your wonderful family over this is too much and a shame? The third, least savoury issue: She may still have hidden feelings for Tom. She needs to take responsibility for it and how it made you feel. You and your sexuality are valid and you deserve to be treated as such. Dont just move on forget, learn from it. Stand firm in that it wasn't okay to disclose private information that you didn't want to be made public. That's just me, though. It sounds more like it's a matter of comfort and trust. Prepare to be known as 'that guy who is really sensitive about his sexuality". The trust cannot be restored and it would be better to separate for now. This is NOT on her timeline anymore. Your marriage is between the two of you. I honestly don't know if your marriage can survive this. It's so important when you have a union of two souls to do everything you can to make sure that your love stays connected and flourishes. If you two have a solid relationship, you should be able to work through this. It's not a secret, kept in a fault. She brought her marriage outside where it shouldn't belong. You will never have that trust again. Watch your back op!! Women get cold feet around marriage, but she decided to be with you. She swears she does love our sex life and the things we do and is sorry. Don't leave mate just get a bit of counselling to talk through your feelings about this situation with her and get some grounding. As others have said you've been outed and made fun of for YEARS now and the weight of that should be made apparent to your "wife". And why do you feed their judgement by throwing your husband to the wolves over this? You can be pissed and hurt and angry for now and work on it. How long has she been friends with them? What she did is disrespectful to you as her husband, to herself as your wife, disrespectful AF to your kids (because they will absolutely hear this rumorone day if you live in a small town) and in my opinion this is a divorce threshold. That means she's been laughing about their sex life for a couple years, after outing him and then hiding it from him. No pun intended. With women like you out there in the world, why the fuck would anyone settle for less? Any words of wisdom for the talk tomorrow? No. Don't fight. But there are definitely lines, and she crossed a big one. Truly when you come to the realisation your partner has such a low view , I sympathise a lot with you dude. If I were OP, the answer to this would play a big part in how/whether I wanted to proceed in the relationship. I would DIE if my husband mocked me being bi like your wife did. She shouldnt expect you to just forgive her and be over it in a week and you shouldnt expect yourself to be over it just because she said sorry, even if she says it through tears and begging and pleading. One of the things they dont tell you about relationships is that you gotta be able to stand up for your SO when the time comesso even if OPs wife doesnt actually believe all that and bent to peer pressure, that really sucks and Im sorry she feels that way with her friends, but she shouldnt be surprised if she loses her husband. Then she said he has a really cute small dick, but tries to please. How this going to help him after he become joke to everyone he know !!!! Bisexuality is valid. Ive never felt this upset. Not such perfect marriage after all. She knows shes an ass, and her friends know their actions were trash. Me: Oh, does (friend) work with Tom? I said this as sarcastically as possible. I also pointed out that every single one of her relationships ended up being abusive so she had no right to tell me to leave my boyfriend when he'd never lay a finger on me. This seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I kind of agree with you. Imagine all the other crap she does drunk, only to blame it on being drunk . That's something only he would and has already been judged for. Which is obviously shit because she's willing to throw you to the wolves, but not admit her fun time with you. Best of luck. Let's give your wife the benefit of the doubt for a moment. Let's give your wife the benefit of the doubt for a moment. Youre not overreacting at ALL. Your wife outed you. If this is a hurdle you feel like you cant get past, then work on it. I knew I wasnt in a good state and ignored all of them. Its one thing for the wife and her friends to be talking about you, but they were talking about you and laughing. Exposing your sexuality and your sex life to her friends is a massive betrayal, but it has been covered by other quality comments. If you think you can continue in a relationship with someone who is so nonchalantly willing to throw you, your feelings, and your whole person under the bus so easily, for what? Is she going to listen to her friends claim that you being bi has somehow swayed them? Ugh. Not the rest of the world with their petty judgements. You poor man, I so want to give you a hug. Finding this out, I personally dont know if I could get past it. I overheard them talking, and my wife said that this guy was a really nice guy. She has been entertaining this for two years because she can't control her mouth when she's drinking. That that is a topic of conversation is absurd. It doesn't matter how private it is, or if they say they don't, they talk. Uh huh. Are those things outweighed by her indiscrete talking (and her judgemental friends). It takes a bigger person to take the high road, and most people are not. I dont air out our dirty laundry for anyone else to see, especially when it comes to sex. This opens up two main issues, and a third tangential one, as follows: In the first scenario: She crossed a boundary and (un)consiously violated your trust. I don't know why you'd even give it a B-. But I bet, she has told other people many years ago about it. I was hurt when I found out he had outed me to a couple of friends while bragging about some of our exploits, and he apologetically told me the day he did it because it just slipped out during bro time reading your story made my stomach churn. 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i overheard my wife talking about me12v to 6v reducer napa
October 13, 2022
