This means that the control changing effect will still end and the artifact will revert to its previous controller. Types: Legendary Creature Ogre Wizard. 2) If there are any attacking and blocking creatures, they're removed from combat. Priority passes to you. We are mainly confused about at the next end step and until end of turn effects. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. There was a ruling question I had that took forever to understand because it wasn't specified whether she copied the spell "each time she visited the attraction" or "one time when she visited the attraction". Obeka, Brute Chronologist's entire textbox simply says "Consequences are stupid.". It ends continuous effects that have a duration of "until end of turn" or "this turn". Card Text. Is "Deflecting Swat" free if my commander is an enchantment? Contact | 2) If there are any attacking and blocking creatures, they're removed from combat. It's amazing. Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment Just to make it clear exactly when you should be using Obeka it's important to know when effects happen. by Mimicvat 2 years ago, Post Commander Color Restriction Rules w/ Component Pouch. Switch . before the end step, the turn will move to the cleanup step (skipping any phases and steps in between, including end steps) (C.R. The active player, you, must choose a different action. ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{background-color:#fff;box-shadow:0 0 0 1px rgba(0,0,0,.1),0 2px 3px 0 rgba(0,0,0,.2);transition:left .15s linear;border-radius:57%;width:57%}._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS:after{content:"";padding-top:100%;display:block}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIconFaded10);border:2px solid transparent;border-radius:100px;cursor:pointer;position:relative;width:35px;transition:border-color .15s linear,background-color .15s linear}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-active)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-buttonAlpha10)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1asGWL2_XadHoBuUlNArOq{border-width:2.25px;height:24px;width:37.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1asGWL2_XadHoBuUlNArOq ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:19.5px;width:19.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1hku5xiXsbqzLmszstPyR3{border-width:3px;height:32px;width:50px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1hku5xiXsbqzLmszstPyR3 ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:26px;width:26px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._10hZCcuqkss2sf5UbBMCSD{border-width:3.75px;height:40px;width:62.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._10hZCcuqkss2sf5UbBMCSD ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:32.5px;width:32.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1fCdbQCDv6tiX242k80-LO{border-width:4.5px;height:48px;width:75px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1fCdbQCDv6tiX242k80-LO ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:39px;width:39px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._2Jp5Pv4tgpAsTcnUzTsXgO{border-width:5.25px;height:56px;width:87.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._2Jp5Pv4tgpAsTcnUzTsXgO ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:45.5px;width:45.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI{-ms-flex-pack:end;justify-content:flex-end;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-active)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{cursor:default}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{box-shadow:none}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-buttonAlpha10)} The only stipulated way in the rules (for the given scenario) to force your opponent to take an action they don't want to take is via 722.3. Also, I think loops generally have to do something for a judge to not consider them stalling, and I don't think making my opponent say "no" counts as doing something. Likewise, "[do something] at end of combat" (e.g., in myriad [C.R. Sundial of the Infinite - (G) (SF) (txt)Identity Thief - (G) (SF) (txt)Ball Lightning - (G) (SF) (txt)Heat Shimmer - (G) (SF) (txt)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. It seems you have the correct knowledge of how Obekas ability works, but here is a link for sundial of the infinite which acts exactly the same as Obeka. Let's Brew with Obeka, Brute Chronologist as our commander on. They decline to end the turn. It cant include conditional actions, where the outcome of a game event determines the next action a player takes. I'm sure no one else is too surprised though . The active player is the player whose turn it is. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} If you use Obeka with Act, you still give the creature back. Obeka, Brute Chronologist - (G) (SF) (txt)Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - (G) (SF) (txt)[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, Thank you so much everybody! Finally, "at the beginning of the end step" (examples include [[Ball Lightning]] and [[Heat Shimmer]]) expresses an ordinary triggered ability that likewise goes on the stack after it triggers (C.R. On the other hand, the phrase "at the beginning of the next end step" expresses what is called a delayed triggered ability (it has the word "at") (C.R. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. by Muffins1001 1 year ago, Post How long can I stop the game like this, and are there any penalties I would suffer under the rules? 'end of turn' effect: Act of Treason. by darrenhabib 1 year ago. 11/10/2020. Most combos actually win a game in the way they're designed; infinite mana, infinite damage, infinite turns, infinite blink. 'end step' effect: Hate Mirage. Obeka, Brute Chronologist, illustrated by Jesper Ejsing. 30-day money back guarantee. EDIT (Sep. 18): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime. Rince and repeat for each opponent, effectively only giving them untap and upkeep steps until an answer is found, which might be hard without a draw step. Obeka, Brute Chronologist - All good things must come to an END. If you swing at who I want, I'll let you keep it for a while. This doesn't work either because you are not at the same game state after your opponent decides to not end the turn. Rule juggling is fun but you're overlooking other rules. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} slythr: Answers to your question have been up for a while. This site 2023 TappedOut.net, LLC Thanks for this detailed breakdown! (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. Add to Cart 1; $0.32 . Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). Take extra turns with blue/red for three and just say no after that. You are 'looping' only before the resolution of Obeka, putting so many Obeka actions on the stack. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Card Number: 289. I reasoned that the lore behind him had something to do with the ancient past, but I thought he was even older -- perhaps the beloved he sought was the legendary Rebbec! Steal shit, don't give it back. Oneka's second ruling states The end state has Obeka tapped. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. Me, and the opponent choosing not to end the turn. you're trying to force a different outcome via infinite loop. Out of stock. Thus, you can't use Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) to keep "until end of turn" or "this turn" effects running after the current turn is over. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. Min price of the total 35 cards for sale. Opponent says no. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} Obeka, Brute Chronologist can be used during opponents turns, but it is a may ability. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. One thing to note about the clean up step here, from gatherer: If any triggered abilities do trigger during this process, theyre put onto the stack during the cleanup step. . For the cards she plays nicely with, you generally need to allow the trigger to be put on the stack first in order to permanently delete it. 514.2, 514.3a). by Cobara86, Time after Time If you end the turn once it has, the trigger won't ever resolve. Press J to jump to the feed. 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I love commander a lot, but man the prices get me down. If you're going to run Oriq Loremage, you might slip in a huge creature to Unearth, something like Dragon Tyrant can be huge and not break the bank, Double Strike and Firebreathing are really good together, and you won't have to pay the upkeep with Unearth, he's dead before that matters. 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Card Kingdom Price From $0.22. 1x Command Tower. 1x Crumbling Necropolis. A couple days ago my friend told me the heard about a quirky rules lawyer-y interaction involving [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]] that I just love if it's true. Otherwise, priority would not pass to all players during a cleanup step, and there would be no need for a second end-the-turn effect? : The player whose turn it is may end the turn. Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis). In order for it to be considered a shortcut loop you must propose all actions involved including your opponents. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn. Because the trigger for the token destruction is for combat steps only after the original creature (or copies) attacked. Commander Legends: Obeka, Brute Chronologist. 603.7b, 614.10a). Go ahead and say nuh-uh to whatever shit is flying in your face. As you will be the next player with extra turns it means that the. You're not winning any games this way; you're just starting arguements at the table. You might also run stuff like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone to help you hit higher MVs sooner, ramping by only 1 mana feels bad compared to hitting a land drop most of the time, there is also Gilded Lotus, but hitting 5 mana can be rough. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. This site is unaffiliated. 99.9% of the time you should be ending your own turn, but on the odd occasion you could use it as a tool to prevent other players from using instants during other players turns. The entire reason Obeka has 'may' in the card text is to prevent this. Help | This will allow you to delay the trigger by a turn. Also worth noting is that ending the turn before the end step causes the At the beginning of the end step effects to trigger at the next end step that occurs since they were not triggered given the skipping of the end step. This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. This includes spells and abilities that can't be countered. Firecat Blitz: how does it effect tokens that disappear on the end step . Obeka, Brute Chronologist As Commander As Card Average Deck Decks Combos Combos Used In Obeka, Brute Chronologist (559 Combos) Submit your own combos and corrections to Commander Spellbook. 603.3). 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